Re: My, you're not game at all!

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By:Tony (212.76.37.164)
Date: 12 July 2006, at 7:03 am

In Response To: Re: My, you're not game at all! (Helen)

This place was starting to feel very quiet and lonely, and all of a sudden Sylwia pops back in! Welcome!
I was just getting ready to start a new thread to get things going again, so I shall postpone that for later. Now to the topic on hand... Sylwia cites the passage in Mansfield Park, chapter 20, first paragraph. This is one of the two passages in Austen's novels where a gentleman is quoted speaking with another outside the presence of at least one lady. The other instance is in Emma, volume three, chapter 15, 19th or so paragraph,
After this, he made some progress without any pause. Frank Churchill's confession of having behaved shamefully was the first thing to call for more than a word in passing.
"I perfectly agree with you, sir,"�was then his remark. "You did behave very shamefully. You never wrote a truer line." ...
Although quoted in the context of Knightley relating the "conversation" to Emma, the words were still spoken between the two men, with no lady present. The same goes for Edmund's monologue, without any quoted reply from Sir Thomas. On this point (no lady present), Sylwia is right. However, in both cases, there is no actual exchange between the gentlemen, so here, Helen is correct. That is precisely why when I mentioned this on my previous post, "But if anyone can truly point out an instance of gentlemen's dialogue, sans any lady present, in any of Jane Austen�s novel..." I deliberately underlined the word dialogue. (I still maintain that nothing of the sort exists, but the issue is still on the table.)
This is good. I wish we can have more of these "discussions" here. But if this has made a few "lurkers" out there pick up theirs copies of Jane Austen's books to reread them, then it's well worth it. For Sylwia's valiant research, she gets the prize. And for Helen standing up to Sylwia, she also gets the prize!
Why don't you ladies each make your selection over at Audible.com. The Jane Austen page is right here. (Sometimes the link can fail to bring you to the Jane Austen selections, so simply type in "Jane Austen" in the search field under All Products.) I advise you to select only the unabridged version. Make sure you sample the audio first. When you have made your choice, email me the information. To avoid confusion, specify the name of the narrator and the release date of the audiobook. I have most of the (unabridged) titles, even the bad ones, so if I think you're making the wrong choice I will advise you first.
Tony

Messages In This Thread

My, you're not game at all! -- Sylwia (212.76.37.164) -- 12 July 2006, at 6:50 am
- Re: My, you're not game at all! -- Helen (212.76.37.164) -- 12 July 2006, at 6:53 am
  - Re: My, you're not game at all! -- Tony (212.76.37.164) -- 12 July 2006, at 7:03 am
    - Re: My, you're not game at all! -- gail (212.76.37.164) -- 12 July 2006, at 7:05 am
      - Re: My, you're not game at all! -- Tony (212.76.37.164) -- 12 July 2006, at 7:06 am
        
        Re: My, you're not game at all! -- Sylwia (212.76.37.164) -- 12 July 2006, at 7:09 am
        
        Re: My, you're not game at all! -- gail (212.76.37.164) -- 12 July 2006, at 7:10 am
    - Re: My, you're not game at all! -- Helen (212.76.37.164) -- 12 July 2006, at 7:12 am
      - Re: My, you're not game at all! -- Tony (216.132.90.200) -- 12 July 2006, at 10:06 am
        
        Re: My, you're not game at all! -- Sylwia (212.76.37.164) -- 12 July 2006, at 10:16 am
- Re: My, you're not game at all! -- Tony (216.132.90.200) -- 12 July 2006, at 12:43 pm
  - Re: My, you're not game at all! -- Sylwia (212.76.37.164) -- 12 July 2006, at 1:17 pm
    - Okay, I will risk a guess... -- gail (68.67.137.56) -- 13 July 2006, at 7:39 am

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